Wednesday, November 30, 2011

The eternally-16-year-young Barkha Dutt, the versatile and veritable diva of Indian television news who is the Group Editor of SPINDTV, a national 24-hour spin-machine has been shortlisted for consideration for selection as the International TV Personality of the Year 2011 by a panel of independent judges.
And with that, let’s take a short commercial break. Barkhanama will be back in just a bit!

You see, the last time we reposed faith in stuff like “independent judges,” the naughty old lads at the Hooker Committee unleashed Arundhati Roy upon 1/6th of the world’s population. This population continues to suffer her verbal terrorism with neither rest nor respite. Thus our fears are well-founded.
Welcome back to Barkhanama! We were talking about the heart-warming news of the diva’s shortlisting before we took the commercial break. Yeah, so it’s really amazing that she’s made it to the Final Five of the coveted International TV Fatality of the Year. Neither will it be a surprise if she wins it given her stellar contribution to Excellence in Spinning on Television. She has indeed honed her excellence for more than a decade since she descended from the towering heights of Kargil all the way down to the depths of Mumbai. She has not only mastered the art of sound-biting on television, she has in a short span, acquired extreme mastery in 140 characters.
But this brief summary of her awe-inspiring accomplishment doesn’t do full justice to deserve the Barkhanama title. For that, we need to do what B.Raman hasn’t done. We need to chart uncharted courses. We need to rush into that place where angels fear to tread.
And so, let’s begin Barkhanama with her absolutely best tour de force till date. Only one exploit qualifies for this: the time when she gave the legendary on-field ass-kicking to Pakistani terrorists on live TV, a courageous act her detractors at Vanity Fair and elsewhere term as “helping the terrorists’ handlers.” This is closely followed by that other glorious feather in her cap when she kept herself busy by keeping a bold watch on perverse political shenanigans like brokering cabinet berths in the UPA central ministry—yet another spunky deed that was yet again (sigh) demonized by the jealous people at the Open Magazine.
Not that such petty disparaging dents her mettle, which is made of the same material that helps a chameleon…er…adjust to rapidly-changing circumstances.  But then one can’t just keep ignoring accusation upon unfair accusation. So she embarked upon the same course of action that any honourable man (or woman) does: she took recourse to the rights that the law bestows upon every individual. In the “depths of Mumbai” case, she sent a legal notice to a blogger who had unfairly called her kicking-the-terrorists’-asses-act as “shoddy journalism” – how dare he! In the second instance, she treated the nation to a spectacular display of a Caesar’s wife is above suspicion style of defence when she blasted Manu Joseph of Open Magazine on live TV. Of course it is to the nation’s collective shame that nobody believed her defence. Now that she’s been shortlisted for the top slot of becoming an International Fatality, eat your words! Especially all you Twitter folks!
These stunning acts of the Diva’s Indomitable Spirit of Justice and Courage are actually compelling reasons why she and only she should get that International Television Fatality of the Year award. Yeah, I mean why should we care about stuff like facts and balance when you have passion? Passion explains everything, makes everything right…I mean, what’s the big deal with a few slip ups here and there like on that Dantewada thing?
Perhaps the greatest testimony of her matchless record is the fact that she’s been with SPINDTV since its inception in 1988 and has risen to adorn its Group Spinster post. Also, her She the People talk show—where she talks and the participants listen to her voice—has completed 10 years, a no mean achievement. These accomplishments are quite consistent with a news channel that has a record of courageously showing the middle finger to the greedy income tax guys and corporate law guys of the Indian government. Not to mention its Founder-Spinner—Prannoy Roy—whose hobbies include Oceanography and marine-life preservation. He’s pursued this hobby by buying up and flattening sand dunes on a seaside property measuring some 27,000 square metres.
Look at it whichever way, you see that Barkha Dutt is a pretty strong contender. Even a veteran Sir David Attenborough will find it fatal to compete with her. I mean, he’s done pretty boring work all his life—what the hell is a Life series compared to the Diva’s incessant slanging matches on TV, paper, and Twitter? What’s a mere “Sir” in comparison with getting a Bollywood character modelled after your blood-curdling exploits in Kargil? Think about it. What’s the point in shooting a Ocean World when you could’ve bought a vast beachfront property and pursued your hobby firsthand, you know, like field experience and stuff? Sorry, Sir Attenborough, you’re no match for the Diva. You might just voluntarily withdraw and make way for the new…er…waters. The same goes for the other two gentlemen in the final shortlist.
November 9 will be the Day of the Diva. The International Television Fatality Day (To the shameless Barkha-critics on Twitter: create a hashtag or something to honour her).
Postscript: Oh and B.Raman needs to focus his energies more on topical studies or whatever in Chennai than waste his time and talent penning shameless peans for someone who epitomizes everything wrong with journalism in India. Send me that legal notice already.
Media lionises a rogue cop
SUNDAY, 09 OCTOBER 2011
Sanjiv Bhatt, the IPS officer who has levelled sweeping and baseless allegations against Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, has a mile-long history sheet of violating every possible rule in the book — from abusing TADA to harass innocent people to planting narcotics to frame an innocent lawyer. His service record is blotted with several observations of his shameful conduct. Yet, for media he is a hero!
There’s really no other way to say this: Sanjiv Bhatt is a rogue cop who has willingly let himself be a pawn in the hands of those whose sole intent seems to be the removal of Mr Narendra Modi from his position as Chief Minister of Gujarat. His arrest by Gujarat Police on September 30 has brought out new facts which only underscore what this writer had earlier chronicled in these columns (“Modi-baiters stand unmasked”, August 26). His tone, tenor and language before and after his arrest seem to prove the repeated observation in his service record that his conduct is unbecoming of a senior IPS officer.


The arrest of a senior IPS officer — or any civil servant — happens under relatively extraordinary circumstances. Bhatt’s case demonstrates this fact like no other: Throughout his career, the Gujarat Government has shown remarkable restraint in not acting tough against Bhatt’s numerous transgressions. Most of these weren’t ordinary transgressions: from planting drugs in an innocent lawyer’s hotel room to rigging police recruitments to committing atrocities by misusing the TADA to flouting repeated summons to appear before departmental inquiries. The latest episode of his violation-filled career is the allegation that Bhatt bullied his junior, police constable KD Pant, into signing false affidavits. If Mr Pant’s allegations are proven, Bhatt stands to face exemplary punishment.
Mr Pant’s complaint makes for shocking reading. Very briefly, it states how Bhatt asked Mr Pant to state that his deposition before the SIT was taken under duress, told him to paint the SIT as a team of arm-twisters and bullied him to state that he went with Bhatt to that “dreaded” meeting Mr Modi had with his senior bureaucrats on February 27, 2002 and assured Mr Pant that he would be “safe” by taking him to Gujarat Congress leader Arjun Modhwadia who assured him that “Mr Narendra Modi is to be sent to Sabarmati Jail within two months.”
What’s interesting is that Bhatt in his Supreme Court affidavit in April 2011 states that Mr Pant was treated by the SIT as if he was an accused. This is quite consistent with Bhatt’s later-day intimidation of Mr Pant and indicates that perhaps Bhatt had the intimidation planned when he filed his SC affidavit. It should also be noted that Bhatt produced Mr Pant suo moto as a witness before the SIT.
The prime reason for Bhatt’s secular stardom hinges on his claim that he was present in that meeting where Mr Modi had allegedly instructed a group of senior bureaucrats to allow Hindus to vent their anger against Muslims. Which is where  Mr Pant’s complaint gains immense importance. Mr Pant’s complaint states that he was on leave and vacationing in Mumbai from February 25 to February 28, 2002, a fact he has disclosed to the SIT. If this is indeed true, it is consistent with the fact that none of the said bureaucrats could recall Bhatt’s presence in that meeting. Additionally, Mr RB Sreekumar, former Gujarat DGP — no friend of Mr Modi — in his affidavit before the SIT hasn’t mentioned Bhatt’s name as those present in that meeting. Look at it whichever way, it’s clear that Bhatt is blatantly lying under the veneer of his ‘stricken conscience’.
It’s curious why he hasn’t produced a single shred of evidence especially when he claims that he has massive amounts of documents to implicate Mr Modi and other “powerful” people in the Gujarat administration and refused the court’s offer of bail on the condition that he allows the police to access his bank lockers. If he’s the principled man he claims he is, why should he deny such a request? If he’s utterly scrupulous, why did he need to approach a political party, and known mischief-mongers like Ms Teesta Setalvad and Ms Shabnam Hashmi? Recall that Bhatt’s affidavit was notarised by the same advocate who notarised all those false and/or tutored witnesses produced by Ms  Setalvad. The truth is that Bhatt is allowing himself to be used by Modi-baiters of all hues: Primarily the NGO mafia and the Congress. His e-mail exchanges with Gujarat Congress opposition leader SS Gohil (where Bhatt asks him for a new Blackberry phone) and links with Mr Arjun Modhwadia are clear indicators that he’s a willing pawn in the Congress’s political games.
However, all this doesn’t concern the presumptuous media, which in Mr Modi’s case seems to operate like the propaganda arm of the Congress. A leading daily pens an editorial about how the Gujarat Government has muzzled Bhatt’s right to dissent by arresting him. The irony of that statement is perhaps lost on the publication. There’s a huge difference between arresting somebody on perfectly legitimate grounds — it’s significant to note that no criminal case has been framed against Bhatt — and arresting because he/she exercised the democratic right of peaceful protest. As official documents show, Bhatt’s arrest was the only way the Gujarat Government could get him to face departmental proceedings because he had avoided as many as four summons. Of course, such facts are inconvenient to a media that has stitched its own version of the truth. Oh, and the clearest and most recent instance of muzzling dissent is the savage crackdown by the Congress against Baba Ramdev and his supporters. Another illustrative example is the Emergency imposed by this party.
The guardians of secularism unfailingly exhibit a Pavlovian similarity in behaviour where Mr Modi is concerned. The mindset at work currently is the same that clamoured for Mr Modi’s blood and wept copious tears for that dreaded underworld don, Sohrabuddin. It’s also the same mindset that treated Sohrabuddin like he was some martyr just the same way as it’s now suppressing Bhatt’s shady record and giving short shrift to Mr Pant’s complaint. It’s superfluous to say that the media, a willing stooge of the secular fundamentalists has abandoned even the most basic sense of right and wrong. What’s next? Will this motley crowd support Dawood Ibrahim if he alleges that Mr Modi was responsible for the 2002 riots?
A good indicator of what’s going on can be gauged by the Congress’s reaction. It wasted no time in openly supporting the drumbeaters who took out protests condemning Bhatt’s arrest. Indeed, the arrest couldn’t have come at a better time. Mr Modi’s spectacular success of the Sadbhavana Mission combined with America’s praise for Gujarat’s successes and its own realisation that the Congress has near-zero presence in Gujarat were causes for serious worry. Bhatt’s arrest gave it a new handle to manufacture more fake outrage. More accurately, the Congress has adopted a multi-pronged approach to attack Mr Modi: From taking out parallel fasts to abusing the Governor’s office to using Bhatt, it’s desperately trying to nail that one trick that’ll actually work. Bhatt is merely incidental.

 
The following is my translation of Dr. S.L Bhyrappa’s article that appeared in Vijaya Karnataka on 16 October 2008.
It provides an all-encompassing perspective on the proselytization menace threatening India and is justifiably lengthy.
Read and weep. Better still, do something.

This Happens Only in India
Christian Missionary activity in India has a history of about four hundred years. Neither is it fresh news that after Sonia Gandhi’s coronation, there has been a near-explosion of conversions across India?a fact, which is well-known simply because our media houses have carefully banished it. There is almost a self-imposed gag that prevents the media from even raising conversions as a serious social issue. However, what becomes front-page news is the reaction/opposition to missionary activity. Case in point: the recent efforts to counter missionary propaganda and mischief in Orissa and Karnataka. The secular media, intellectuals, Leftists, and fellow-travellers were quick to bawl from the rooftops that this was the end of India. Neither is their bawling new: the average newspaper-reader is no longer fooled by such displays of selective sympathy, which in reality is secular support to missionary activity. But it doesn’t end there. With each passing day, Sonia Gandhi’s pets, intellectuals, and secularists have increased the decibel levels to a feverish pitch to achieve a twofold goal: to undermine BJP-ruled states and Hindu organizations, and help Christian organizations worldwide to blacken India’s face at the United Nations. The Congress government at the Centre under Sonia Gandhi is also on an overdrive, trying to exploit the situation to hilt by finding ways to dismiss the state governments in Orissa and Karnataka. What has stopped them from actually dismissing the state governments is the fact of a possible voter backlash in the elections following the dismissal.
The ruling party at the centre, Left comrades, and the English media were quick to blame Bajrang Dal for the violent reaction that resulted from Missionary mischief. However, some uncomfortable questions persist. What was the actual role of Bajrang Dal in the violence? What was the role of the people who inflicted violence in the name of Bajrang Dal? What was the role of those who, goaded by Missionary propaganda, carried out the violence of their own accord? These questions are ignored precisely because they are uncomfortable.
Francois Gautier, a French journalist living in India for many years expresses alarm in an article describing the Christianization of India under Sonia Gandhi.
I am a westerner and a born Christian. I was mainly brought up in catholic schools, my uncle, Father Guy Gautier, a gem of a man, was the parish head of the beautiful Saint Jean de Montmartre church in Paris ; my father, Jacques Gautier, a famous artist in France, and a truly good person if there ever was one, was a fervent catholic all his life, went to church nearly every day and lived by his Christian values…Yet, I am a little uneasy when I see how much Christianity is taking over India under the reign of Sonia Gandhi : according to a 2001 census, there are about 2.34 million Christians in India ; not even 2,5% of the nation, a negligible amount. Yet there are today five Christian chief ministers in Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Kerala and Andhra Pradesh.
One should add that the majority of politicians in Sonia Gandhi’s closed circle are either Christians or Muslims. She seems to have no confidence in Hindus.Ambika Soni, a Christian, is General Secretary of the Congress and a very powerful person, with close access to Sonia Gandhi. Oscar Fernandes is Union Programme Implementation Minister. Margaret Alwa is the eminence grise of Maharasthra. Karnataka is virtually controlled by AK Anthony, whose secretaries are all from the Southern Christian association. Valson Thampu, a Hindu hater, is Chairman NCERT curriculum Review Committee, John Dayal, another known Hindu baiter, has been named by Sonia Gandhi in the National Integration Council ; and Kancha Ilaya, who hates Hindus, is being allowed by the Indian Government to lobby with the UN and US Congress so that caste discrimination in India is taken-up by these bodies.
I have nothing personally against Sonia Gandhi…since she is at the top, Christian conversions in India seem to have gone on an overdrive. More than 4,000 foreign Christian missionaries are involved in conversion activities across different states. In Tripura, there were no Christians at independence; there are 120.000 today, a 90% increase since 1991. The figures are even more striking in Arunachal Pradesh, where there were only 1710 Christians in 1961, but 1,2 million today, as well as 780 churches! In Andhra Pradesh, churches are coming-up every day in far flung villages and there was even an attempt to set-up one near Tirupati. Many of the North-East separatist movements, such as the Mizo or the Bodos, are not only Christian dominated, but also sometimes function with the covert backing of the missionaries…More than 20,000 people have lost their lives to insurgency in Assam and Manipur in the past two decades…this is an India where you see today Swami Avimukteshwarananda Saraswati of Dwarka Peeth, made to disembark from an Indian Airlines flight for carrying his holy dand, a thin bamboo stick which is a symbol of their spiritual designation, inside the aircraft cabin…Indians like to say that the greatness of India is that it accepts a foreigner and a Christian like Sonia Gandhi. But isn’t it rather a weakness, and an aberration? Can’t we find a worthy leader amongst one billion Indians?
I have merely excerpted a few lines from Gautier’s article available online at http://www.francoisgautier.com/Written%20Material/Newspaper/Sonia-occ.html (Francois Gautier can be contacted at 09343538419/09442123255).
When the late Pope John Paul II visited India in 1999, the English media was ecstatic and tried to infect its ecstasy throughout the country. The Indian President and Prime Minister together with its retinue of ministers welcomed him as it would welcome the head of a state. But Hindu groups protested the state honours done to the Pope because his real mission was to convert Indians. The media, secularists, and self-proclaimed “progressives” raised an unbearable cacophony, colouring the protests as another instance of the dreadful threat of Hindu fundamentalism. But what did the Pope do? He declared with impunity that, “just as in the first millennium, the Cross was planted on the soil of Europe, and in the second on that of the Americas and Africa, we can pray that in the third Christian millennium a great harvest of faith will be reaped in this vast and vital continent.” The Pope shot’s was direct and open: reap a harvest of souls in India. The progressive drum-beaters and their cohorts in the media who had shown such courage in denouncing “Hindu fundamentalism” responded with strategic silence.
Unabated Christianization: Strategic Silence of Secular Progressives
Here is the percentage-wise list of countries whose populations have been Christianized by weaning them away from their native religious practices, thanks to missionary propaganda.
Angola 90
Burundi 78
Cameroon 35
Central African Republic 82
Chad (Tchad, French) 33
Congo 62
East Timor 98
Ethiopia 52
Equatorial Guinea 94
Gabon 79
Kenya 25
Liberia 68
Mozambique 31
Nigeria 52
Papua New Guinea 97
Philippines 84
Rwanda 69
South Africa 78
South Korea 49
Sudan 30
Tanzania 20
Togo 23
Uganda 70
Zaire 90
The United States contributes $145 billion for conversion efforts across the globe. Churches worldwide earmark about $1.1 billion to fund missionary-specific research. This kind of research is carried out in 300 languages and covers about 180 topics. Books and other missionary literature are published in 500 languages. These add up to 175000 in total. An average of $3300 is required to convert one person. However, this doesn’t mean that the person wishing to convert actually receives $3300. The sum covers the conversion infrastructure: planning, administrative activities, and implementation. In 1500 CE, the missionaries numbered about 30 million worldwide. Today the number stands at 640 million. 54% of this number is non-Whites. The conclusion is inescapable: the intent is to train and provide an entire support system to non-Whites to garner more souls into the Christian fold. This technique is very similar to what the British did in India. They recruited Indians into the army by training them, paying them well, and providing superior living standards. This system ensured that the British Empire was supported on the ground by the natives themselves.
An average Indian is still perplexed by the actual goal that conversions achieve. This explains why the conversion debate is so poorly formulated in the Indian public discourse. Indians regard spirituality in terms of severe austerities, of penance and inward contemplation practiced in silence and solitude on the freezing heights of the Himalayas or in threadbare hermitages in forests or in caves. The stress is on realizing inner light, on realizing one’s own Self. The spiritual aspirant has absolutely no moral right to preach spiritual realization to the world until he achieves self-realization. But what does a self-realized person really preach? The same as what he set out to realize. Since his realization is his own experience, the preaching itself therefore consists of the methods, and approaches of attaining self-realization. This however, is neither the way nor the essence of Christianity.
It is essential to understand the nature of Semitic (Prophetic or Abrahamic) religions to understand the fundamental tenets of Christianity. Every Prophetic religion is by definition established by a Prophet. Judaism, established by the patriarch Abraham, is the foundational Prophetic religion. Christianity, a variant of Judaism is believed to be founded by Jesus. Islam, which incorporates several features of Judaism, was founded by Mohammad. Prophetic religions share several similar fundamental Principles upon which the entire edifice of the religion exists. The chief among these is that man has no direct access to God. If you remove just this one principle, the whole religion falls apart instantly. Direct access to God is denied to man because man is a sinner by birth and continues to sin as long as he lives. Now, this God is frighteningly macabre and delivers the cruelest punishment without hesitation, decrees the Prophet. Man should unquestioningly believe the Prophet and follow his teachings to save himself from falling into a ghastly Hell after death. Non-belief means eternal suffering in Hell. It is thus mandatory to believe in the Prophet. Not just that. By extension, Prophetic logic implies that the entire mankind is sinful. Therefore, it is mandatory for all existing believers to convince existing non-believers: by force if necessary. Prophet Mohammad decreed wanton murder, torture, humiliation, and slavery as legitimate methods of dealing with non-believers. Some of these methods have become an inextricable part of the Koran. No Prophet can tolerate Gods of other religions, an aspect I have dealt with in detail in my novel, Aavarana.
No Satisfactory Answers
Jesus was a Prophet in the mold of Abraham. However, it is believed that unlike Abraham, he preached love and forbearance. In reality, recent researches question the very existence of Jesus as a real, historical person. If he really did exist, is he the same Jesus that we find in the New Testament? With the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, suspicion veers in favour of the latter. Christianity as we know it today was given its shape by Saint Paul, founder of the Church. Scholarly opinion apart, there’s no difference between the Koran and the Bible on this principle: you will be cast to eternal hell if you don’t believe in the Book.
Early in its history, Christians began a systematic campaign of wanton massacre and conversion of Jews on the mistaken belief that Jews nailed Jesus to the Cross. Those Jews who refused to convert were brutally tortured, which is perhaps why Jews did not attempt to convert people of other religions. The seeds of Anti-Semitism sown then continue unabated to this day. It reached its gory climax at the hands of Hitler, who killed about six million Jews in his gas chambers. Pope Pius XII is also known as “Hitler’s Pope” for his wanton blindness to the genocide of Jews under Hitler. John Cornwell, in his book bearing the same title documents (using material from the Vatican’s archives) how the Pope’s deep rooted anti-Semitism led him to collaborate with Hitler in the Jewish massacre. The Vatican is yet to come up with a satisfactory refutation of this charge.
The Inquisition of Goa that lasted from 1560 through 1817 provides us the dark details of the horrors of yet another chapter in the history of Christianity-inspired violence. The Inquisition signifies the series of unbelievably barbaric atrocities that were committed on Hindus who refused to convert to Christianity when the Portuguese took over Goa. Inquisition “laws” numbered about 230 pages. Stalin modeled his interrogation methods after the precedent of Christian Inquisition laws. In Goa, Inquisitions were carried out behind closed doors and windows in a place known as Doddamane. A sample of how this worked. People who refused to accept the only true faith were believed to be under Satan’s influence. Inhuman torture was the preferred method of extracting confessions from unbelievers. The screams of the victims emanating in the silence of the night were heard throughout the entire locality. Victims were mercilessly flogged in the presence of their family, their body parts were severed and mutilated, their eyelids were torn out, and their fingers and toes were cut piece by piece.
The Church priest Diego de Bordeaux, together with Vicar Miguel Vazz devised a 41-point programme for torturing Hindus. Accordingly, the Goan Viceroy, Antao de Noronha published the following decree in 1566 applicable to the entire region under Portuguese occupation.
I hereby order that in any area owned by my master, the king, nobody should construct a Hindu temple and such temples already constructed should not be repaired without my permission. If this order is transgressed, such temples shall be, destroyed and the goods in them shall be used to meet expenses of holy deeds, as punishment of such transgression.
Other ingenious specimens follow.
  • No instrumental music should be played in Hindu weddings
  • Paan is prohibited at Hindu weddings
  • Exchange of fruits, flowers, and betel nut is prohibited between the families of the bride and the groom
  • Family deities should not be worshipped
  • Arranging pandals is prohibited
  • Threshing husk (rice) and making sambar powder on the eve of wedding preparation is prohibited
  • Post-death ceremonies like the 13th day (Vaikuntham) celebration is prohibited
  • Ekadashi fasting is prohibited
  • Hindu men are forbidden from wearing dhotis
  • Hindu women are forbidden from wearing blouses
  • Growing the Tulasi plant around the house-either in the front or backyard is prohibited
According to a decree dated Sep 22, 1570, Hindus who had converted to Christianity were exempt from all taxes for a period of 15 years. However, none of these Hindus were allowed to use their original Hindu names or even their surnames.
Space constraints prevent me from mentioning further details of the Goa Inquisition. The Goa Inquisition, by A.K. Priolkar (Voice of India, New Delhi) provides an exhaustive account of this blood-dripping historical episode. Pages 79-84 contain the comprehensive list of Hindu temples (as also the cities/towns they were located in) destroyed by Portuguese missionaries. Priolkar’s book also carries a bibliography of the contemporary accounts left behind by the Portuguese. Missionaries and Muslim invaders who came before them thus shared the same zealotry in destroying Hindu temples and the licentious massacre of Hindu population. Thanks to the brutal Inquisition, thousands of Hindus fled to neighbouring states like Karnataka, Kerala, and Maharashtra to retain their Hinduness and identified themselves as Konkani Hindus. To this day, the Gauda Saraswata and Sarawata Brahmin castes trace their ancestry to Goa.
In the chapter entitled, Portuguese Religious Policy, the noted historian K.M. Panikkar records in his book, Malabar and the Portuguese, that Hindu kings treated Syrian Christians with respect and did not interfere in their religious beliefs. Accounts of contemporary Portuguese travellers affirm this fact. However, Syrian Christians, at the first available opportunity, kicked at the king’s authority and recognized the overlordship of the king of Portugal. They voluntarily gave up their ancestral religious symbols, icons, and documents to Vasco Da Gama. Additionally, they requested him to take over the existing Hindu kingdom and offered to help him accomplish the conquest. They suggested that Vasco Da Gama build a fort in Granganore. This is the nature of the gratitude Syrian Christians showed to the king who let them practice their religion in peace and treated them without discrimination. When Christianity finally gained political supremacy, the Portuguese viceroy received a diktat to convert the Raja of Cochin!
No Footnotes Required
Renaissance, Enlightenment, and later, colonialism were the greatest causes to put a rude end to the Church’s use of violence in converting people of other religions. Trade and political expansion opened the eyes of the upper classes of the Christian West to religions in other lands, to religions other than Christianity. The rise of Protestantism is in reality, a violent political reaction to a corrupt Catholicism and a debauched Papacy. However, the Church’s effective decline became irreversible around the time of Enlightenment. Scientific spirit and reason became the bases for philosophical enquiry against the “enquiry” of the Church, which was primarily rooted in dogma. Advances in physics, biology, and sociology exponentially multiplied the number of people who quickly rejected the Church. All it took to reduce Christianity to abject powerlessness was the application of reason to scrutinize its fundamental tenets. An alarmed Church adopted a new disguise: it projected the advances in science as something already present in Christianity! It gave it a new fancy name: Christian Science. According to this new science, science was separate, and faith was separate. It propounded that we should not use scientific methods to examine faith. The implication is obvious: the Church wanted to put a stop to critical examination of the fundamental principles of Christianity.
The British who established their empire in India had earlier set up the Church of England, breaking away from the clutches of the Vatican. They did not wish to risk antagonizing Hinduism in India. Therefore, they propagated the pretence of keeping the missionaries and the Empire separate, at least in the eyes of Indians. Ultimately, the aim of both the missionaries and the empire was the same: to destroy the spirit of India. India’s spirit posed a very different challenge unlike any other nation that the British had colonized. Macaulay’s education policy, the Aryan Invasion Theory, the Eurocentric (mis)interpretation of Indian history and caste, applying pseudo-sociology to the Indian society, census, and a systematic splintering of the Hindu society into Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, and Buddhists, the Aryan-Dravidian artificial divide, and the continual fanning of Hindu-Muslim passions was the singular contribution of the British to the Indian education system. They injected this cultural poison in books and our institutions and created a whole new generation of rootless people who became aliens in their own land. The chaotic state of India today is the living mark of their outstanding success in this ignoble endeavour. This was exactly the grand shot missionaries needed to further their ambition of Christianizing India. On its part, the British masters sanctioned land (also ordered the local/provincial Rajas) for building schools, colleges and hospitals, mere guises to really execute missionary activities. Missionaries were also projected as the carriers of allopathic medicine and nearly wiped out the medical system of ancient India. Additionally, converted Indians were given pay raises and promotions on a preferential basis in government services thus creating a self-perpetuating incentive structure that ensured that Indian Christians placed their loyalties elsewhere than their own motherland. These converts quickly announced their cultural alienation by ostentatiously adopting the manners, menu, attire, and customs of their imperial masters. As a result of such overt display, “native” Indians naturally were overwhelmed with awe at the institutions the British built. However, what should not escape our notice is the fact that the British built their hospitals as places to train Christians in various specialty medicines. The following example is a good parallel to show how the British masters went about procuring what they wanted. A common refrain even today is the praises sung in glory of the adventurous spirit of the British. I can recall one such instance from my childhood. The British penetrated the densest jungle, cut it down, tamed it, and built sprawling coffee estates, something Indians had no guts for. Many years later, a retired revenue assessor revealed how the system worked. Typically, the British Resident at Bangalore would send a request to the provincial Raja to sanction the procurement of land for a coffee estate at a specific location. While it was worded like a request, it was a masked order in reality. The order would travel through the office of the District Collector right down to the Taluk Amaldar. The Amaldar would then send a revenue inspector. The British beneficiary and the revenue inspector would reach the top of a hill from where the British would draw a circle in the air indicating the extent of land he wanted. Necessary orders would be passed to this effect. Local labourers would then begin to cut down the vegetation typically spread over thousands of acres. The British beneficiary would then sell the valuable trees like teak and rosewood that were cut and use the proceeds to build his coffee estate. The Imperial Bank would lend money at 1% interest, which the estate owner would repay after the crop was harvested. These coffee estates and the English-style bungalows at the top of these hills survive in many parts of India today. The Planter’s Association in Sakaleshpur had a signboard that prohibited entry to natives and dogs.
There is a fundamental difference between Hinduism and the desert-born Abrahamic religions. The Prophet of each of these religions has a monopoly over truth and exclusive access to God’s message. His followers need to therefore submit themselves to him failing which eternal suffering in Hell is assured. To fully secure their allegiance, the Prophet commands his followers to go to the world and convert people of other faiths by force if necessary. This command is in the nature of sacred duty. It is clear that Prophetic religions are basically blinkered ideologies. The Vedas, India’s earliest lyrical expression of philosophical quest hold that That is the One Truth, which the Wise men state in different forms and methods and words (Ekam Sat Vipraah Bahudaa Vadanti). We can find no other better expression of freedom in intellectual, spiritual, and philosophical inquiry. This same precept is echoed in almost all Indian schools of philosophy. SyAdvAda (SyAt=maybe, possibility, suggestion of alternatives) is one of the most important tenets of Jainism. This tenet expostulates that an aspirant should not insist that his perception is the only truth. He should accept the existence of an alternate perception, even an opposing perception. Equally, he should accept that both the alternate and the opposing perception can coexist. Jainism lists seven such possibilities. This is but another expression of Ekam Sat Vipraah… Equally, all Indian schools of philosophy placed a high value on logic and philosophical (and scholarly) debate. This is yet another important reason why Prophetism never occurred to Indian consciousness. The Rishis of the Vedas and Upanishads were not prophets. In the last chapter of his scholarly The Psychology of Prophetism, the Belgian scholar Koenraad Elst says that prophets “talk about themselves a lot. They think they are very special, this one person in this one body is different from the rest and has an exclusive relationship with the Creator. But the rishis talked about a universal way, a world order in which we all participate, a state of consciousness we can all achieve. If God is defined as that which transcends all worldly differences, the One above the Many, then this universalism is far more divine than the prophets’ exclusivism…. the essence of Hindu Dharma is not tolerance, or equal respect for all religions but Satya, truth. The problem with Christianity and Islam is superficially their intolerance and fanaticism. But this intolerance is a consequence of these religions’ untruthfulness: if your belief system is based on delusions, you have to pre-empt rational inquiry into it and shield it from contact with more sustainable thought systems. The fundamental problem with the monotheist religions is not that they are intolerant, but that they are untrue, (Asatya or Anrita).” Elst’s book is a must-read for anyone with a serious interest in the subject. Similarly, Buddha was not a prophet-he was another rishi living in the Upanishadic age. Buddha’s teachings are entirely consistent with and in many ways complementary to their Upanishadic counterparts. R.D. Ranade’s A Constructive Survey of the Upanishadic Philosophy (4th edition, 2nd part) accurately observes that all Indian philosophical schools use the word Dharma to describe themselves, not the word religion, used by Prophetic creeds.
How not to Interpret Spirituality
When the initial waves of barbaric Islamic invasions took India by stunned surprise, spiritual leaders of different philosophical schools were unable to fathom the true nature of those invasions. Coming from the Ekam Sat Vipraah… tradition, they explained the brutal savagery of the invaders as the behaviour of spiritually unevolved people. It did not occur to them to examine the nature of the invaders’ religion. As a relatively recent example, Chandrashekhara Bharati, the Swami (pontiff) of Sringeri Shankara Mutt was once approached by a European with a request to initiate him into Hinduism. The pontiff responded by asking him to first be a good Christian, which automatically meant he would become a good Hindu. Several people uphold this incident as an example of the inclusivity of Hindusim. It is both naïve and stupid because a true Christian is duty-bound to convert as many heathens as possible. That Chandrashekara Bharati was clearly ignorant of this tenet is amply evident. Other questions arise. Was the Swami so deeply steeped in Ekam Sat… that he leaves us no option other than calling his reaction intellectual sloth? Or was he still unable to break the prohibition of initiating people of other faiths into Hinduism? And this incident occurred in the previous century. During Islam’s destructive trail of conquest, during the Portuguese Inquisition in Goa and rampage in the Malabar, as also the surreptitious missionary activity under the British, no Hindu spiritual leader even attempted to critically scrutinize Prophetic creeds. Vidyaranya, the founder and spiritual force behind the Vijaynagar Empire, had accurately assessed the problem facing Hindu society. However, I have not come across any critical study of Islam that he had undertaken. In the purview of my studies, only Maharshi Dayananda Saraswati and Swami Vivekananda seem to have examined Prophetic creeds from both spiritual and critical standpoints.
The same inaccurate perceptions about Prophetic creeds exist among Hindu spiritual leaders and educated laymen alike as we speak. A Jihadi who risks his life to execute terror attacks and missionaries who reach remote and inaccessible villages and dense forest regions and dangerous mountain territory are propelled by the same brainwashed motivation: convert people to the only true religion.
A good yardstick to scrutinize any religion is the emphasis it places on social service. This is healthy from both an economic as well as an ethical perspective. In Western nations, the state gradually assumed all-round responsibility for its citizens: education, jobs, unemployment benefits, sanitation, healthcare, pension funds, and old age care. This was based on the goal of a welfare state. Most prosperous nations today have institutionalized these responsibilities remarkably well. As a result, several of these functions, which earlier belonged to the religious domain, were irreversibly and unrecognizably detached from religion. A few decades ago (even today to an extent), Christians were glowingly praised for their record of establishing schools, colleges, hospitals and old-age homes. Hinduism was derided in the same strain for not doing those very things. Subsequently, Hindu religious institutions (mutts and temples) followed the same path of social service. However, from a purely philosophical standpoint, are these the real aims of Hindu religious institutions? The fact that centers of philosophy have felt compelled to engage themselves in social service is a cruel (but precise) commentary on the all-round, systematic failure of a corrupt and morally-depraved polity. To that extent, we owe a mountain of gratitude to these institutions. However, that is not their core area of activity. To understand this, we need to discern the primary purpose or function of these institutions. To what extent are these institutions today capable of being the founts of spirituality? To what degree are these institutions competent to fulfill that unstated longing that transcends food, riches, employment, money, and education, learning and opulence? While spirituality illuminates our ethics, it is both erroneous and misleading to measure spirituality using moral standards. In 1975, I represented India at a month-long seminar on teaching ethics under the aegis of UNESCO at Tokyo. As part of the seminar, I had to interview educationists in schools across Japan to learn how moral education was imparted there. One of my visits included a Christian-run school. In the course of the interview, I asked the principal of the school whether his school taught moral education differently or better than other schools.
“Very good question,” he said, “we are special.”
“How?” I quizzed.
“About 30 students who passed out of this school converted to Christianity after they reached adulthood.”
Who has the courage?
In that principal’s world, morality consisted of converting to Christianity. A non-Christian cannot be moral. A famous anecdote revolves around a comment made by a Muslim about Mahatma Gandhi. “Gandhi maybe a Mahatma but he is definitely inferior to the most condemnable Muslim.” Subtle explanations fail to penetrate such a mindset. As also the fact that ethics and morality are independent of religion, and force, cruelty, allurement and coercion are not acceptable methods to spread religion.
In this context, it is pertinent to raise some questions about Mother Theresa, who was posthumously beatified by the Vatican and when alive, wallowed in the halo of gigantic international publicity. Did she allow the orphans in her hermitage to practice their own faith? After her death, I visited her Missionaries of Charity to find that every orphan was converted, another instance of Missionary designs to convert. The combined might of the Vatican and international media ensured that she always stayed in the limelight. On their part, the Indian media, a mere echo of the Western media did their bit to perpetuate the Mother Theresa myth. Christopher Hitchens’ The Missionary Position successfully busts this myth. He unearths convincing evidence to show how her words and deeds were completely inconsistent. He documents her friendship with dictators (Duvalier), and fraudsters (Charles Keating) and also shows how she lacked any sense of ethics when she refused to return the money she had taken from Keating. Keating had stolen this from thousands of poor and middle class Americans by promising them attractive rates of interest. According to Christian doctrine, an aspirant of Sainthood should have performed a few miracles in his/her lifetime. As a matter of suspicious coincidence, the Nuns of Theresa’s order suddenly began to narrate the miracles they had witnessed around Theresa. This passes off unnoticed by our daring intellectuals. But Sai Baba is not that lucky.
Let me narrate something from my childhood, around 60 years ago. A huge drum was placed on a bull. Beating this drum was the signal to the villagers to put together whatever they could afford to give in charity. The current pontiff of the Siddaganga Mutt, Shivakumara Swami, was in his forties back then. He would visit the village in person in a bullock cart. On their part, the villagers used to fill huge sacks with chillies, ragi, and pulses and send these sacks on a 40-mile journey to Siddaganga at their own cost. This was true of every village in the surrounding. The Swami never asked. His work motivated people to volunteer thus. His only appeal: “I don’t care how many poor children are in your village. Send them all to my Mutt. I will take care of their every need. Their education is my only concern.” Today, Siddaganga Mutt has around 8000 children under its umbrella. Ever since he became a sanyasin, he toured villages by foot and gradually built the institution to its current size. He makes no caste or communal distinction. I have seen Muslim children in his institution. Despite all this, he has not converted a single child to Veerashaivism. His approach stands on religious openness and character-building. Yet, what’s the publicity he has received? A few paragraphs in local, Kannada newspapers when he turned 100 only because he turned 100. Contrast the publicity Mother Theresa garnered in her lifetime. This is not to express discontent or envy. One of the five strictures of a Yogi is that any good work needs to become an offering to God. The moment he ascribes his name to it, he descends to the level of a puffed-up egotist and stops progress in Yoga. Malladihalli Raghavendra Swami, Baba Amte and Dr.Sudarshan at B.R.Hills are but a few prominent names of several such selfless people serving society in a spirit of worldly detachment. Yet their names are not heard beyond their surrounding villages unlike Mother Theresa. That’s because their work doesn’t involve spreading the “love” and miracles of Christ.
Who will bell the Cat?
If brainwashed missionaries roam remote villages, busy hunting for conversion-prey, a gigantic, international support system constantly backs them-from training, funding, guidance, assistance, media management, making the right noises in public-all the way up to exerting political pressure when crisis breaks out. Hindus have historically and continually become habituated to losing. This sorry state of affairs continues unabated despite having a law that regulates conversions. Courts have also expounded on this law but the exposition serves only to amplify the cruel mockery simply because nobody has the courage to enforce it. If Hindus report missionaries using unlawful conversion methods, media cacophony ensures that the complainants are themselves portrayed as the villains! The miserable and recurring consequence is that the police refuse to act. The collective power of the media, politicians, Christian organizations, and intellectuals demonize Hindus in a shrill din of abuse. The terms of abuse vary-communal, fundamentalist, fascist, and bigoted-but the pattern is sickeningly familiar as is the result: Hindus are arrested for speaking or acting against unlawful activities. Neither is this new. We can trace its genesis to the culture of the Congress party under Nehru, who initiated institutionalized Hindu-victimization. Despite being Gandhi’s chosen pet, Nehru embodied the very antithesis of everything Gandhi stood for. Indeed, as India neared Independence, Gandhi quickly lost relevance. This culture of Congress is being dangerously embellished in the able hands of a Christian lady who swears her allegiance to the Vatican. In addition, the carefully-cultivated culture of dynastic slavery ensures that no career-minded Congress politician can progress without genuflecting at her feet. When political career is defined as the single-minded pursuit of unscrupulous accumulation of wealth and power, no Congressman will dare to dream of talking about conversions in any but fawning tones. Non-Congress secular drum-beaters like Deve Gowda, Mualayam Singh Yadav, and Lalu Prasad Yadav have perpetually had their eyes on the minority vote bank and are therefore viciously anti-BJP. And then we have the Communists masquerading as secularists par excellence on the other end of the political spectrum. Hindu-bashing is one of the foundation stones of Indian Communist “theory.” The academia and the self-proclaimed intellectual elite pitch in with their bit to complete the picture. This class derives its ideas from the mould of Macaulay. One discernible commonality of secularist politicians involves using Orwellian doublespeak. A typical secularist politician conducts elaborate Vedic rituals at tremendous personal expenditure, visits every other temple, and offers massive sums of charity to Brahmin priests. The very evening, he visits a Mosque, and in public speeches, proclaims that he wants to be born a Muslim in his next birth! The reason is not difficult to discern: in a democracy of appeasement, pandering to the lowest common denominator is a mandatory survival tactic as well as a garb to hide insecurity. And thus he is compelled to oppose those who oppose fraudulent conversions. Fasting till noon under the shade of Gandhi’s statue is a workable method of expressing opposition. Neither is he alone in this. The Dalit intellectual class shows another interesting facet. This class opposes any measure to pass legislature to ban conversions for a more insidious reason. If such a legislature ever comes to force, this class permanently loses its powerful, time-honoured artillery of blackmail: threatening to convert to Islam or Christianity en masse. Their duplicity is further evident when we notice their behaviour vis a vis reservations to Dalit Christians (the term in itself an oxymoron). They fiercely oppose reservations to Dalit Christians because they’re unwilling to share the cake with more people. Samuel Rajashekar Reddy, the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh extended reservations for Muslims in his state with the long term view of extending a similar largesse to Christians. His message is transparent: convert and thou shall obtain reservations. In their Buddhism-conversion drives, they visit every Dalit house and ensure that Hindu Gods-Maramma, Annamma, etc-are comprehensively discarded. However, in government forms and records, they state “Dalit” in the “Caste” column. To the Hindu institutions and mutts that oppose such neo-Buddhists, their stern reply, nay warning, is ready: mind your own business.
Assigning Moral Responsibility
To add more fuel to this stifling, chaotic, and violent atmosphere, the media abuses ordinary Hindus and other direct victims of conversion when they raise genuine concerns. The media and public institutions in powerful Christian nations pick up this thread of abuse, bolster it, and raise hell internationally. A recent New York Times article on the Orissa violence is a study in manipulative journalism. Revealingly titled, Hindu Threat to Christians: Convert or Flee, it paints Hindus as oppressors. French schools prohibit students from displaying religious symbols in any manner including the clothes they wear. Sikh students cannot wear turbans; neither can Muslim girls wear headscarves. The French ideal of promoting religious harmony is admirable. In his recent, brief visit, Manmohan Singh requested the French President Sarkozy o allow Sikh boys to wear turbans to school. In the same breath, Singh also promised Sarkozy that he would initiate stern and speedy action to stem religious violence in Orissa and Karnataka. Notably, Manmohan Singh did not mention why attacks occurred in these states. Upon his return, he contemplated a snake-in-the-grass attempt to dissolve the state governments. It is no secret that “President’s rule” really means rule of the Congress party in these states.
With no support from a democratically-elected government, and no clear Constitutional means to stem the disasters of missionary activity, it is unsurprising that ordinary Hindus have resorted to violent means of solving the problem themselves. The Hindu backlash is not wanton or unprovoked-it is an endeavour to defend their ancestrally-cherished dharma. That the government has lost any sense of moral responsibility is evident from the way it has been handling recent Islamic terror attacks, which are occurring in waves. Post September 11 2001, there has not been a single attack on the American soil. However, terror attacks have been occurring almost everyday across India. The aim of Islamic terror is to sustain attacks till India is demoralized, paving way for an eventual political takeover. From Lenin to our own Maoists/Naxals and the neighbourhood dictator, Prachanda every system of organized terror subscribes to this final, political ambition. Lack of political will and willful abdication of responsibility has only intensified loathing, distrust, fear, and desperation in the minds of millions of Hindus. When the state fails in its duty as a protector, won’t citizens find their own means of self-defence out of sheer dismay? In this context, will mass condemnation of Hindus assuage their feeling of helplessness, or prevent them from defending themselves?
Casteist politicians, media, and self-proclaimed intellectuals take refuge in hypocrisy and hollow platitudes instead of thinking through this problem with the seriousness and urgency it merits. It is time they showed an ounce of honesty in confronting the truth.
Francois Gautier concludes his essay with these words:
Are we heading then towards a Christian India under Sonia Gandhi’s helm? It would be a tremendous loss not only to India, but also to the world. For in India, you find the only living spirituality left on this planet.
Related Reading:
  • Arun Shourie Harvesting Our Souls (ASA)
  • Arun Shourie Missionaries in India (ASA)
  • Matilda Joslyn Gage Woman, Church and State (Voice of India)
  • Sitaram Goel CATHOLIC ASHRAMS-SANYASINS OR SWINDLERS (Voice of India)
  • Sitaram Goel History of Hindu-Christian Encounters (Voice of India)
  • Dr. N.S. Rajaram Kraista Matada Ugama Mattu Sadhya Stithi (updated), (Kannada, Jagarana Prakashana)
  • Dr. N.S. Rajaram Dead Sea Scrolls and the Crisis of Christianity (Minerra Press)
  • Dr. N.S. Rajaram Profiles in Deeption: Ayodhya and the Dead Sea Scrolls (Voice of India)
  • Dr. N.S. Rajaram Christianity’s Collapsing Empire and Its Designs in India (Hindu Writers’ Forum)
  • Christopher Hitchens The Missionary Position: Mother Theresa in Theory and Practice
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  1. Thanks for the translation..
  2. Great stuff. There is a pressing need for translating more and more articles from Indian languages to English and publish them on the Net. Even today, only 5 percent of Indians understand English. That’s all. It is the vernacular press where nationalism survives.
    And the print run of Hindi newspapers dwarfs English media any day. The largest selling newspaper in the WHOLE WORLD is Dainik Jagaran with a print run of over two crore copies every day (compared to only 8 lakhs for Times of India). The importance of English media to manipulating Indian public opinion is nothing but a grand myth.
    I have made it a point on my blog to translate articles from Hindi newspapers to English. This is the only way to counter the barrage of leftist / communist propaganda from English newspapers and news channels that the hapless Indians are subjected to every day.
  3. Sanjay:
    I have been collecting a list of non-psec newspapers (and TV channels) in any language. Can you add some to my list? Thanks..
    Organizer
    Pioneer
    Dainik Jagran
    Sanatan Prabhat
    Saamna (Marathi, Mumbai)
    Panchajanya
    Tarun Bharat
    News Today (Chennai)
    OdishaToday (Local english paper from Odisha)
    Dinamalar(Tamil)
    Thuglak(Tamil)
    India Today (seen as becoming more and more anti-psec)
    Janmabhumi (Malayalam)
    The Sentinel (English, NE)
    Deccan Herald (English, Bangalore)
    —————
    E TV (Gujarati)
    India TV (Hindi)
  4. @ashish i’m not sure if Deccan Herald belongs in this list. used to subscribe to that when i was in Bangalore, and found it fairly psec.
    @sandeep thanks for posting this. how long was the actual article in VK? and regarding the paper itself, is it still “loyal to its BJP roots” (i remember that the initial marketing for this was done by RSS)? or has it changed after the ToI takeover?
  5. Ashish, you could add Dhinamani (Tamil) to the list as well.
  6. Most vernacular newspapers are nationalists. (Ignore the Hindi editions of English newspapers such as Navbharat Times, etc.)
    Here is the list of Top 10 newspapers of India in terms of readership (according to National Readership Survey 2007). Not a single English newspaper figures in the list.
    1. Dainik Jagran 17,114,000
    2 Dainik Bhaskar 12,514,000
    3 Hindustan 9,052,000
    4 Malayala Manorama 8,837,000
    5 Daily Thanthi 8,351,000
    6 AmarUjala 8,255,000
    7 Eenadu 7,233,000
    8 Mathrubhumi 6,961,000
    9 Rajastan Patrika 6,946,000
    10 Lokmat 6,874,000
    http://www.chronosphere.biz/IMO/36/dailies.htm
  7. Thanks Karthik, Krishnan, Sanjay..I will modify my list..
  8. For all the positives of the article, it is extremely stupid of Bhyrappa to get into territory he evidently doesn’t understand when he makes this statement about the past Sringeri Sankaracharya, Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati:
    > Was the Swami so deeply steeped in Ekam Sat… that he leaves us no option other than calling his reaction intellectual sloth?
    As a matter of fact, he was: deeply steeped in “ekam sat…”. Not only was the svami a peerless scholar (his commentary on Vivekachudamani, the only such commentary, is a treat) but a Self-realized saint – a “jivanmukta” of the highest order.
    Maybe someone should send Bhyrappa the Kannada biography of the Svami (Sringeri Peetada Manikya) by Sri S.K Ramachandra Rao (one of the greatest recent scholars of the Vedic religion) and the two English biographies – by Sri Krishnasvami Iyer and Sri A.R.Natarajan. That should give Bhyrappa some idea of who he is talking about. Bhyrappa should also read the Svami’s letter to a Christian Frenchman on spirituality and a dialogue with a Muslim police officer on the same. It is clear that Bhyrappa hasn’t done his homework in this area.
    And moreover what does he expect the saint to do: convert the American/frenchman/muslim? He seems to want to force some kind of a political/social role onto saints :
    > Vidyaranya, the founder and spiritual force behind the Vijaynagar Empire, had accurately assessed the problem facing Hindu society. However, I have not come across any critical study of Islam that he had undertaken.
    Sri Vidyaranya probably had better things to do! Would we rather have his classic Pancadasi which is a spiritual tour-de-force or ‘a critical analysis of Islam’?! It is childish of Bhyrappa to preach to these greats what to do.
    Lastly, also on Byrappa’s reading list should be Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati’s successor’s (Sri Abhinava Vidyatirtha) dialogue with a Christian priest who wanted to establish a church in Sringeri (can’t recollect the exact book). In a superb example of logical reasoning, the dialogue begins with the svami asking the priest what the tenets of Christianity were and ending with the priest agreeing that it was pointless to establish a church there.
    So, pretty disappointing to read someone like Bhyrappa making ignorant remarks – and on Hindu greats!
  9. Sharan,
    Can you post any links to the references you cited? I am very interested in reading them.
    Thanks
  10. Hi Esh,
    Am not sure if these are available online. But will try and post the links if i get them.
  11. Man I am overwhelmed to see the number of advice that BJP is getting after the Assembly polls.
    http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/rajdeepsardesai/1/53035/times-change-politicians-dont.html
    Here some from Slurdesai or Turdesai as you lovingly call him
    Some points that catch the eye
    “If it’s the NCP-Congress alliance in Maharashtra, it’s the BJP which was ruling Gujarat and Rajasthan when serial blasts occurred there. Could any political party justifiably claim that they have licked terror and have a monopoly on the issue? ”
    “Unfortunately, the BJP’s campaign against terror has become an ideological war revolving around identity politics that has weakened the party’s credentials to fight the highly motivated international terrorist. The manner in which some BJP leaders used the arrest of Sadhvi Pragya in the Malegaon blasts investigations to try and whip up “Hindu rage” was clearly out of tune with the citizen’s desire to see a united front against terror in all forms.”
    “Nothing exemplified this better than the public reaction after Narendra Modi’s visit to the Taj hotel even while the siege of Mumbai was on. As the macho political face of the BJP, Modi symbolized the party’s anti-terror plank. ”
    “By offering a monetary reward to the family of the slain police officer Hemant Karkare, he complicated matters even further: after all, only days earlier, at election speeches in Madhya Pradesh, Modi had virtually accused Karkare of “torturing” Sadhvi Pragya. From being cast as a desh-drohi one day, to being celebrated as a “desh-bhakt” martyr the very next, the attitude of the sangh parivar to Karkare denied them the moral high ground in the war on terror.”
    “If the NDA continues to see the war on terror only through the prism of a particular community, it too will suffer.”
  12. Although I respect your love for Indian spirituality, it is not the only living spirituality in the world. Catholic spirituality lives and thrives. By the fruits of each shall they be known. By their efforts to educate, to nurse, to comfort, to end injustice. There are distortions in this piece, an inability to separate class and national interests from Christ’s message, that make it too shallow an analysis to dismiss Christianity. Christian saints are the best proof of its worth,not its petty dictators,torturers, and charletans, of which hinduism and every religion and nation on earth has its own share. Let us live in peace until the best, the most energetic, the most virtuous, vanquishes.
  13. Janet says : “Christian saints are the best proof of its worth,not its petty dictators,torturers, and charletans, of which hinduism and every religion and nation on earth has its own share.”
    To which category does Mother Theresa belong : “Christian Saints” or “charlatans”?
  14. mystic fire: well said !
    Janet: Your ‘sermon’ on this forum gives a good flavor of the piffle that your colleagues speak to the gullible of this country. Unfortunately, you’ve chosen the wrong forum for your hubris. Our minds arent as dented as you think they might be, so please spare us. We’re quite an enlightened lot.
  15. Janet: Are you thinking of Saint Xavier, who blessed into existence the worst inquisitions in history: Goa? (where the Portuguese used to cut the eyelids off parents eyes so that they could could not even shut their eyes when their children were tortured? I don’t know (actually I do know) what crap your missionary-priest-monsigneur-whatever has led you to believe, but most of your saints are rotten egostistic scoundrels, the rest are pure evil murderers.
    http://www.christianaggression.org
    Christians: Stop worshipping Caesar Titus cast as this Roman creation “Jesus Christ”!
    http://www.caesarsmessiah.com
  16. >>As a matter of fact, he was: deeply steeped in “ekam sat…”. Not only was the svami a peerless scholar (his commentary on Vivekachudamani, the only such commentary, is a treat) but a Self-realized saint – a “jivanmukta” of the highest order.
    Sharan, before calling someone stupid, I urge you to read the article in toto. You obviously haven’t gotten the context in which Bhyrappa made this statement. If it’s that hard for you, let me spell out the context. The point is not about the Swami’s erudition or scholarship or his Jivanmukta status. It is about his failure to set right Hindu society’s ills and/or cause an awakening in Sanatana Dharma, a la Vidyaranya or Vivekananda or D.Saraswathi. Your mention of a few letters/rejoinders can by no stretch of imagination be called “arousing the Hindu masses.” Has Bhyrappa faulted the Swami’s jivanmuktatva or scholarship anywhere in the entire article?
    When you speak of Abhinava Bharati, you shift the goalposts: he was at the helm of affairs in an INDEPENDENT India. That is a significant difference because missionary activity–although very alive and kicking even now–back then was fully supported by the British might, a HUGE plus which the Church lacks today.
    On Vidyaranya, I urge you to read my post on the saint, and warrior par excellence.
    In debate, it is wrong to let your reverence for people cloud your judgment and logical faculties.
    Cheers!
  17. There is a reference to Sri Chandrashekhara Bharati Mahasvaminaha.This conversation between the Acharya and an European took place in palamadai village on the banks of the river Tamraparni in south tamilnadu.(c.1927)
    The content of the conversation forms the first chapter of the book ‘Dialogues with the Guru’.The revered points out to this christian who is inclined towards vedanta,the Universal nature of Vedanta.
    The Acharya points out that the Highest teachings of every faith are but a phase of the Universal Religion.He takes the example of Christ to point out that the fundamental creed of christianity-the belief in Jesus as the only redeemer cannot be a part of any religion calling itself as eternal.
    The christian in a respectful way voices his doubt about the claim of Acharya that Hinduism is universal.Acharyal points out the difference between Samanya Dharma(what is enjoined on entire humanity) and Vishesha Dharma(what is mandatory for a particular clime).The Acharya after clarying his doubts on religion ,the need for different sampradayas counsels the European that God in His Infinite Wisdom had given the European birth in a christian family,because in His Wisdom that was best suited to his competency.He therefore should seek salvation in the christian way by seeking a teacher who was living by the ideals of Christ.
    When the European seeks the Acharyas blessings,the Acharya points out that Blessings are the monopoly of God(even though Acharyas spiritual eminence is so high).He also tells the sadhaka that as he progresses in the God chosen sampradaya(christianity),he will realise the oneness of God who is beyond all sampradayas.
    I would also recommend the wonderful introduction to this book by a renowned french professor Paul Masson Oursel,Ecole des Hautes Etudes,University of Paris.
    The book has been reissued by Shankara Vidya Kendra,Paschimi Marg,Vasant Vihar,New Delhi-57.The book costs Rs.50. Copies will be available at the Sringeri Math Book Shop,Shankarapuram.
    I want to point out that Acharyas viewpoints on Sanatana Dharma are not politically correct.One cannot describe Acharya by the catch-all phrase ‘liberal’.He lived when Mysore was a princely state.He lived for a few years after independence,but by then he was mostly in the ‘antarmukha’ state.
    It would not be correct to his revered memory to bring Him into this discussion.
    Sri Abhinava Vidyatheertha Mahasvaminah,a great jivan muktha himself,represents the power and capacity of Hinduism to renew itself.Though belonging to the most orthodox seat of Sanatana Dharma,he was liberal and catholic.
    He thoroughly understood the yuga dharma of the day.He supported legislation to prohibit discrimination.Though orthodox Acharyas are not in the forefront of reform,he thoroughly understood the need for it.The core of Sanatana Dharma is untouched by all this.
    He was fully aware of the deception adopted by missionaries.But like a real Jivan muktha he was neither agitated by missionary work nor change in face of Hindu orthodoxy.
    The Jnani is not perturbed or moved by externals of any sampradaya.
    The Acharya defended Mrs. Gandhi for taking actions against terrorists abusing the Akal Takth.He was in the hit list of terrorists.
    The revered Acharya passed away in 1989.Both the Acharya and His Successor have never supported the Ram Janmabhoomi movement.This must be placed on record.
    I will make a comment which might be construed as inappropriate.Yet I shall make it.
    The Kannada Hoysala Smarthas are perhaps the most orthodox community in India.Yet they are outnumbered by mulkinadu telugu brahmanas and the tamil srivaishnavas in karnataka.If you add immigrant konkanis,tamils,desastha maharahtrians, one can understand the angst of kannada hoysala smartha brahmanas.A substantial number migrated to chola desa.Sri Chandrashekharendra Swami belonged to one such family.
    The Sringeri math,though in perfect harmony and sympathy with its surroundings,cannot be a torch bearer of any form of jingoism.This makes it markedly different from any other traditional math which have their own axes to grind.They could be of various persuasions,affliations.(varying from caste,language,sect).The smartha doctrine without its vedantic underpinnings can be lifeless and static.In TN,Advaita thought has been portrayed as cold,opposed to bhakthi,inegalitarian,anti-tamil etc.
    This could be the only reason a writer of the stature of Bhyrappa has misunderstood the Acharya.Ofcourse,this remark is a minor distraction in the main thrust of the passage,over which most hindus might have only minor disagreements.
    Yet,i couldnt resist this rejoinder to an ill-informed remark on one of the GIANTS of Sanatana Dharma,who will always be a beacon light to sadhakas in path of karma and Bhakthi,even after taking into account the realities of Yuga Dharma.
  18. I would say conversion in old Mysore was less compared to what took place in British Madras.The British had more avenues of patronage -govt jobs and particularly educational institutions.Also the Dravidian movement which had the active support of colonial govt helped.
    I am no one to judge Sri Chandrashekhara Bharathi Mahasvaminah.But he was of retiring disposition.He was definitely NOT modern.He lived in a princely state.Did he do anything against the Sanyasa Dharma or the traditional duties of the mathadhipathi.
    Was it expected of HIM to lead a reform movement?Is there any tradition which dictates a Jnani should lead the masses? Did Vidyatheertha ,the Guru of Vidyaranya,lead any such movement?
    He taught the Hindus to lead the traditional lives of purity and austerity?He was not ensnared by any of the fads and glamour of modern life.
    To His constituency,the smartha brahmanas,he was a Guru in the traditional sense.Ofcourse,most smarthas,for instance Sri M.Vishveswarayya or Sir CV Raman were little interested in this orthodoxy or metaphysics.That was also true of most of those whose eyes were opened to western education.The difference was inevitable.Why should it be any different?The Acharya quietly retired into His state,knowing that he was a ‘misfit’ in the modern world.
  19. UI,
    Thanks for those commentaries. I have an innocent question about the Mutts in general. What is their use in the Modern world? Is it not their mandate to protect the Hindu (Sanatana) Dharma? If not, what mandate do they have? If they would not come forward to reform the Hindu Dharma from within and protect it from continuous onslaught from monotheistic religions from outside, what other purpose are they serving? Do they realize that once political power is lost by Hindus their Mutts would not even exist? You can already see this happening in some places. For example, the Kanchi Shankaracharya episode.
    Thanks for your reply in advance
  20. Those are some startling stats about conversions, and the religious politics happening in India.
    Somewhere in my mind, i am unable to believe this. I know politicians play a lot of games, but this is a bit too much.
  21. Beyond the initial surge in conversion by Portuguese, there hasn’t been much conversion in India. This is why despite over a century of British rule, the main proportion of Christians in India are still Catholics (and not Anglicans like the Brits). As for the recent conversion news, as I understand, it is more by protestant outfits and not catholic ones. Catholicism as such is a dying religion post renaissance. After all, US and large parts of Western Europe, are non Catholic.
  22. Hi Sandeep,
    Apologies in advance for what is going to be a very long comment.
    Also a note: It might be tempting to dismiss the present discussion on the Srngeri svamis as a distraction to the overall theme of Bhyrappa’s article. However, the reason why it is important is it raises questions on:
    1) Expectations from our spiritual Gurus
    2) The use of such examples, as currently being discussed, in an article of this kind.
    3) The kind of background work that someone needs to put in so that they don’t end up looking silly
    Now, you say:
    >You obviously haven’t gotten the context in which Bhyrappa made this statement.
    It is Bhyrappa (and indeed, you too) who needs to get the context right. Read UI’s comment about the context in which the svami made the statements. Better still, go and read the original dialogue in the book that UI helpfully quotes. Pages 10 to 19 of the new edition will tell you all and more. It includes the svami questioning the eternality of personality-based religions. I only hope Bhyrappa was being lazy in not going through the original dialogue. Else it makes him no less than a liar when he twists the svami’s words to suit his argument. So do me a favour (and I mean it: it will be a favour) and go through the original passage. There’s a very slim chance that you will still subscribe to Bhyrappa’s ill-gotten example after that.
    I am surprised you ask:
    >Has Bhyrappa faulted the Swami’s jivanmuktatva or scholarship anywhere in the entire article?
    Yes! On both counts. Let’s look the second one: he calls the svami’s reaction “intellectual sloth”. That IS passing a judgement – and yes, a remarkably stupid one – on the svami’s intellectual capabilities.
    If Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati becomes an intellectual sloth by asking a Christian to follow Christianity (!), i wonder in Bhyrappa’s book what he (and indeed you, since you seem to subscribe to that school of thought) would call Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. Why, he himself converted to Islam! He practiced Christianity! And He kept saying that all religions can lead one to God. Also, no “critical analysis of Islam” etc. Intellectually slothful? “Failure to set right Hindu society’s ills”?
    I have no problem if a Prakash down the road made these statements. But someone like Bhyrappa needs to do his homework. Else it looks silly. Sample this:
    >Or was he (Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati) still unable to break the prohibition of initiating people of other faiths into Hinduism?
    Initiation? Into Hinduism? Like what, baptism? You start living like a Hindu you become a Hindu. That’s it. There are explicit statements made by the svamis in this regard. And what prohibition? Whose prohibition? David Frawley calls himself a Hindu and is associated with the Srngeri Math. If there was any such dharmic prohibition, fat chance of that happening in Srngeri ever.
    You say,
    > Your mention of a few letters/rejoinders can by no stretch of imagination be called “arousing the Hindu masses.”
    Who has claimed that the letters and dialogues were meant to “arouse the Hindu masses”? Context please. The letters and dialogues are meant as spiritual instruction to those people. There seems to a fundamental lack of understanding of the role of the Sringeri matha or any other traditional matha. Please understand that if you want them to “arouse the Hindu masses” (in your sense of the word), you’re barking up the wrong tree.
    The svamis are philosophers and spiritual guides. Their role is to preserve and enhance traditional learning and to be spiritual guides to WHOEVER approaches them – whether Hindu, Muslim, Christian, etc. Their contribution to our religion is immeasurable and the svamis’ spiritual power has been a source of endless courage and solace through the ages. There is splendid work going on at Srngeri and through the Srngeri matha throughout the world in preserving our religion. You don’t hear about it in the news doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. It doesn’t fit your “arousing the masses” dictat doesn’t mean it doesn’t count.
    This expectation from spiritual Gurus and mathas has occurred in traditional circles too. In fact, people kept complaining to the earlier Kanchi svami that the Srngeri svami wasn’t doing enough (touring, social work etc.) The Kanchi svami’s words on the Srngeri svami are worth their weight in gold: “Is it that he is idle, making us to do all the work? The very radiation of such a jnani contributes to the welfare of the world! So we should also express our gratitude!” (link: http://www.kamakoti.org/souv/5-59.html)
    Obviously, this doesn’t count for anything in Bhyrappa’s limited version of religion. And looks like it doesn’t count for you too; a pompous comment about how the great Gurus ought to function:
    >It is about his (Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati’s) failure to set right Hindu society’s ills and/or cause an awakening in Sanatana Dharma
    …and while you are at it, please also include in the list the names of thousands of our saints who’ve been born in this land since Christianity or Islam entered India who, like Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati or Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, apparently ‘didn’t do their job’. As your first entry I suggest Sri Ramana Maharishi (also the institution, Ramanashramam, built around him), who was mostly silent and had a number of practicing Christian and Muslim devotees. Traditional saints, spiritual Gurus and the institutions surrounding them have their own role to play in our dharma. They are guided by their knowledge of dharma, not Bhyrappa’s script. Unless Bhyrappa or you think you know better.
    > When you speak of Abhinava Bharati, you shift the goalposts: he was at the helm of affairs in an INDEPENDENT India.
    Wrong! Another example of misplaced facts. Sri Abhinava Vidyatirtha (no one called Abhinava Bharati) was at the helm of affairs since about the mid-1930s. He was specifically ordained at a young age (in 1931) to take the burden of the matha activities away from the elder svami, Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati, who used to be in samadhi much of the time.
    You also don’t seem to know that his line of thinking in the matter of proselytization and related matters is in no way different from his Guru. Refer to the conversations each svami has separately had with devotees on this topic.
    Finally, let me return your advice to yourself: “In debate, it is wrong to let your reverence for people cloud your judgment and logical faculties.”
    For all the good work that Bhyrappa has done, he certainly loses the plot here. We shouldn’t hesitate in saying so.
    And thanks for indulging me this long!
  23. Almost on reflex, i commented on what caught my attention.
    After reading through the entire article,my admiration for Sri Bhyrappa has increased by leaps and bounds.He is remarkably BRAVE.
    It was about time a major mainstream writer exposed the anti-national,anti-social terrorism of the missionaries.
    Let them convert if they want,but we must start own propoganda against the BOM(bastard of Mary) to educate the truth about the darker nature of Jesus mentioned in the Bible,the utter contempt Jews have for Jesus,his trauma as an ostracised child,his seething hatred for tradition and order and above all the barbarism of the Church and christians to the present day.Particularly the duplicity of White christians and fifth columnists in india.
    Christians should not have the benefits of reservation.If possible we must pit the dalit christians against other christians and ensure ‘others’ are booted out.I have no problems if dalits alone get funds for primary education and health care without any benefits of reservation.
    Thanks for publishing this article.Again it is karnataka,which is in the forefront as the citadel of Hinduism in the South.
    Esh,
    Your question is absolutely justified.The same can be addressed to orthodox jewish organisations,churches etc.
    The maths are a very recent phenomenon in Hinduism.They are only about 1200 years dating back to the post-harsha age.They are not indispensable.They have fulfilled the needs of the times.
    Many of them have some role in the life of religious communities.They run temples,veda patashalas and also the Guru is a spiritual guide.Mighty and humble,pandit and commoner,rich and poor get immesaurable benefits,material and spiritual from the Guru.
    Ofcourse,there might be dead wood,show,paraphrenalia and even petty tendencies.This would be true of any organisation.Some of them run educational institutions,hospitals etc.
    A modern math like Ramakrishna Math might even have a more up to date vision.Ultimately as organisations they will judged whether they can live up to their claims.ISKCON will appeal to the basic yearning for Love.
    We live in remarkable times.You can take them or leave them.They are going to survive if they are relevant to the community or adhere to the mandate for which they were set up .So if you are theist,God will ensure a math’s survival if it is relevant to His Purpose or they will survive if it is relevant to its followers.
  24. If Christianity is alternative spirituality, then why the hell does the Pope always have to be a white male? Does God not like brown or black people in alternative spirituality? Does he not like women? Then why not a female pope? Why women are barred from becoming church priests? And what is this 10 percent share of income that goes to the church every month and lands straight into the Vatican bank?
    There may be alternative spirituality in this world, but we have to be very careful what some races have been peddling in its name.
  25. Brave and brilliant article – I returned to AP after nearly an year and I see that the church phenomenon is not just in remote villages – Center of Secunderabad-Hyderabad is taken over by hundreds of churches and huge congregations “Brother Anil’s grand christmas!!” :|
    Here is an interesting article I found about political Islam
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=6aa49466-2575-491f-b712-cea90fcccd0d
  26. http://www.jesusneverexisted.com is a pretty good site about the issue.
  27. The problem of missionaries has existed with us for more than a hundred years now.The real problem they present is-the christians can act as fifth columnists-as they did during the british period.Also they undermine social cohesion.
    Hindu society is undergoing dramatic change.Modern science,technology,methods of production and British rule have ended the old hindu civilization.
    What is going to take its place.I am more interested in that than in indian political unity?
    The indian freedom movement was a response to the British humiliation of india.Though no one can deny that the British heralded the modern age and conferred some tangible benefits like political unity,they had bleached india.They did everything possible to promote hatred among brahmanas-non brahmanas(in madras),Hindus-muslims,hindus-sikhs.To some extent their job was made easier by the fact that hinduism was different from the official versions of christianity,islam and sikhism.Hinduism was derided while many of the imaginary virtues of the semitic religions were extolled.
    The progressive,liberal,humanistic traditions and flexibility of hinduism was blacked out.The uniqueness of Hindu breadth of mind and depth of thought was ignored.The relation of the land and the people ignited the fear of the invaders. The british were filled with dread at the capacity of hinduism to renew itself .
    They particularly hated the brahmanas,who they feared will lead the uprising as they had done in the gangetic plains.No conqueror likes to give up land.
    The British had a unique sadistic pleasure in pretending to be fair.Yet they liked to humiliate culturally the conquered.While professing to be liberal,they poured scorn on hinduism while extolling liberalism and christianity.When some brahmanas particularly in Bengal and Bombay,started demanding that they follow the precepts which they claimed to follow,the British were enraged .
    Many moderate hindus knew the British professions to be sham.Many orthodox hindus took little interest in politics.One must remember that even in 1947,the great mass of people in rural india had only a vague idea of the changes taking place.
    It is a fact that hinduism as a social and cultural force had lost almost all vitality by 19th century.It was an anachronism.The British were fishing in troubled waters to bolster their rule.In this respect,they were worse than muslims.
    Sri Ramakrishna or Sri Ramana or traditional acharyas did not have any blueprint for a new india.Even the clarion call of Swami Vivekananda was to give up outmoded thoughts and embrace a western model of humanity.
    After independence,after the relaxation of the iron grip of colonial rulers,many forces have been released.Democratic suffrage has given power to the dominant peasant castes and also dalits.This also means political disenfranchisement of brahmanas.
    Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay foresaw that the modern age will exalt the vaishyas and sudras while degrading the brahmanas and kshatriyas.
    After independence,the peasant castes have become powerful.VP Singh who had a mandate to reduce corruption unleashed ‘Mandal’ on the indian polity with active support from the likes of kalaignar.States like TN have their own agenda.One must remember there are powerful anti-hindu currents in TN based on linguistic identity.To some extent these are indigenous movements with legitimate interests like Dalits or neo-buddhist movements.
    The problem is with pan-islamic movements and foreign missionaries who have no stake in the land and have a colonial perspective.Even the khalistan movement would not have taken roots without british intervention in the colonial period.
    We can draw inspiration from the past,but in the spirit of the Vedas we must embrace noble thoughts and ideas and effective practices from everywhere which are relevant to us.
    The real Jnani doesnt cling to the past for its own sake.This is true of Ramana or Ramana or Abhinava Vidyatheertha.Though they are realised souls,they are ever practical in their advice to the disciples.
    The problem was not critical in earlier times.It is now reaching monstrous proportions.We have to be ready now.We have to stand united,while at the same time being respectful of the basic rights of holeyas.
    One must remember,this is essentially a political problem.It has little to with ‘religion.’
    Thanks again for publishing the aricle.The “Vedic age” ‘precedes’the “Upanishadic age”.The ‘kavi’ precedes the ‘Jnani’.Insights,Inspiration,Creativity pave the way for Contemplation in due course.Both are part of human culture.
    Sri Bhyrappa has done a great job.
  28. There is no need for me to say that this was a much needed piece. Good translation too!
    Bhyrappa recognizes an issue and brings it up with such force and erudition that even the people in the sidelines are forced to sit up and take notice.
    But the amazing thing is that a stray observation on Sringeri’s Acharyas (which are incorrect, IMHO – but that’s beside the point) got, nay, grabbed the attention of a few vocal people more than the actual issue itself.
    Some points to ponder about:
    1. The tragedy of centres of philosophy having to indulge in “social service” to “keep up with the times” and the expectation from all and sundry that they have to do it.
    2. The fragmentation in the “Hindu” community – you can never praise anybody’s good work without bringing somebody down. Some of the reactions on Vijaya Karnataka to this piece were just stupid and ill-informed, not to mention venomous.
    3. We know who Hindus are – but there is lot of disagreement as to who they are. Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists refuse to be called “Hindus”. Even Veerashaivas nowadays refuse to be called Hindus. Is a new term necessary as the word Hindu has so many other connotations now? And that people don’t want to be “branded” Hindu because of some baggage? Words like “Dharmic” or “Dharma-faith” were being used about a couple of years ago to create an umbrella for all these faiths.
    (Personally, I have no problem calling myself Hindu or using it to denote all these faiths – as it is just a word to denote all of this)
    4. The media circus: till an alternative “credible” part of the mainstream media grows up, we will have to use a lot of salt – because all MSM has to be taken with a pinch of salt. Sangh-published magazines won’t cut it for several people, unfortunately because of this image that MSM has created of them. Something like Pragati is good – but it is not MSM yet.
    People will wakeup only when there is some unfortunate event such as 26/11 only to go back to sleep in 3 weeks. And how many people read blogs like these anyway?
    Sandeep, did you think of going with Prof. Kalyanaraman’s usage (I use them when I get the chance) of the terms “Christism” and “Christist” in your translation as alternatives to Christianity and Christian – which if you notice subtly degrade other religions and faiths to “isms”? IMHO, these new words have to get some circulation. People will get used to it.
    Keep up the good work.
    -nIlagrIva
  29. Hi Sandeep
    We all were wondering where is the so-called human rights activist and secularist Arundhati Roy is and what is she upto? I happen to come across her article after Mumbai terror attacks, which was as usual filled with the crap of Gujarat Riots, Babri Masjid and Kasmiri Muslims’ plight. It was such a sickening article. I thought of sharing it with all the readers and let them understand her true face. I would also like you to dissect her article and enlighten us, as you have always done with other such articles.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/12/mumbai-arundhati-roy
    Jai Hind
  30. Nilagriva,
    i would call myself as voluble in the sense of too much speech rather than vocal.
    You hit the nail on the head when you said veerashaivas do not want to be identified as Hindus.Ditto with jat sikhs.Why is there silent support for MNS or KRV.
    The MNS,KRV have mild resemblance to the much more venomous Akali Dal,DMK,PMK.
    The Veerashaivas have found voice in BJP.They will not be answerable to a High Command to Delhi which will use dalits or OBCs(in Karnataka) as a beating stick.They would not like to be dominated by margaret alva or GK vasan or some reddy who is a godamn central observer.Yes,the possibility exists in BJP too.But they are confident of handling it.That is why Akalis and TDP lined up with BJP.That is how DMK,PMK got an opening through BJP.They all realise BJP is weak compared to Congress.
    The last great empires south of the vindhyas were the Vijayanagar empire and the marathas.Perhaps these memories and also the hindu ethos of these states make the dominant castes better behaved.The marathas had spread to northern india.Also a cosmopolitan ethos has led to the emergence of bengaluru and mumbai continuing to be a centre of commerce.
    Yet patience is running thin here when they their petulant neighbours in AP and TN getting away with blackmail.
    I dont give a damn to PC.The Andhras were ‘asuras’ in the puranas.The less said about kalaignar,baalu,raja,anbumani the better.
    Lets us face the truth.Some states are more’nationalistic’ than the rest.The middle class is by and large drawn from savarna classes.The dominant castes who have control over land and licencing want to milk the industry through real estate and licencing.
    The muslims who had been marginalised by the congress(one of their good deeds)are showing their true colours.Look at Saadiq patcha a dravidian-muslim hybrid viper and kevin a hybrid christian viper.This is the sign of things to come.
    The Congress was ok for its times.The BJP and the Congress have to think together to address the faultlines.The Sikhs and veerashaivas have an INTERST in this.
  31. The Sringeri Acharya or for that matter Sri Ramana or Sri Ramakrishna can do little about the political entity called India,which is a part of the ‘reality’ called Maya.
  32. I agree with most of what is said… just some nitpickings:
    “The Andhras were ‘asuras’ in the puranas”
    Did you get that from “chAnUrAndhraniSUdhanah” from Vishnu sahasra Nama?
    History shows there were many tribes inhabiting the region– the telingas inhabited what is today Telangana region and the Andhras were majorly coastal. While Telingas supported Pandavas, Andhras’ support was divided–some supported Pandavas and some supported Kauravas.
    The point you made about some states being more patriotic seems true. The problem is, the deccan plateau never faced any major war since the last 300 years. The people living there never faced an external threat in recent memory.
  33. This article is a great eye-opener is undoubted. What I have recently came across is a big document with all the facts about the pervert phenomenon of religious conversions carried out by christian missionaries in Bharat and all over the world. I was so much terrified by the evil designs of Vatican and these missionaries that I thought of sharing it with everyone and making everyone sit up and think about this menacing problem. The document can be found at the following link: http://theincompletesentence.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/christian-india-evil-designs-of-christian-missionaries-in-india/
    I would request everyone who cares about the culture, heritage, and the glory of our great civilization to go through this document.
    Jai Hind
  34. kedar,
    chanura andhra nishudanah is a pointer.This is the only province/people mentioned in the Vishnu sahasranaama.The Mahabharatha and the Bhagavatha and other puranas refer andhras as asuras.I am unable to give the exact shloka/chaper/reference.
    Somewhat fickleminded as I am,it could be my own prejudice.
    Chandrababu is a chameleon who blackmailed BJP.NTR organised the national (af)Front with National Conference,Akalis and DMK.In a way he brought these secessionist anti brahmana forces to the mainstream.Needless to say,i am using the term brahmana to mean the highest ideals of our faith.
    The telugus (not all of them) but a substantial number have played obstructive/selfish roles in TN politics from Justice party times to DMK.
    Being an armchair vedanti,i recogonise the central role of Svaatmanupreeti( a term used by no less than Sri Chandrashekhara Bharathi,ascetic par excellence) to denote the human predicament.We do what is dear to our own selves.Our efforts are meant to maximise our happiness,well being of our body,mind,near and dear and whatever that matters to us.Having some sattvika or asthika tendencies,we are guided by dharma,reason,Guru,’humanity’,tradition,scriptures,or our own whims,fancies,vasanas,tendencies,habits or circumstances.
    Even after giving some latitude for interest groups,sense of community,i feel DMK telugus like Arcot Veerasamy,Velu a state minister(not the central minister),KN Nehru,Napolean,all these are local figures are among the cheapest politicians anywhere.They speak telugu at home,nothing wrong with that,they pretend to be ‘pure’ tamils,indulge in rhetoric/corruption etc.These wheeler dealers are one of the reasons for the emergence of ADMK and vanniar party like PMK.
    One can say they are smart survivors.But what stuns me is their duplicity.The telugus play the kannada card in bengaluru,bellary,tamil card in TN.They are the largest group in south india.They have no insecurity as such.Is it too much to expect them to behave with decency.
    Vaiko is better compared better than DMK guys.But the delusion he is suffering from.Is it too much to expect them to think straight.Ofcourse,there are/were honourable exceptions in ADMK etc.
    Rambling and ranting as usual.
  35. I think we have enough problems with many enemies.I think my rants on telugus were perfectly avoidable.The need of the hour is UNITY.
  36. UI:
    Being aware of some of the politics in TN, I agree with you regarding what the non-local Telugu-speaking politicians are doing in Tamil-Nadu. But then, consider this: if there were no Tamil chauvinism, would these pretenders have had a chance to exploit the Tamilian chauvinism for their nefarious purposes? We cant treat the disease by treating the symptoms– we need to go down to the root of the problem.
    ———————-
    Coming to the issue of Telugus, the whole of Andhra Pradesh is not a single block– there are different “regional-ethnicities” if you can call it so. There is Southern AP, called Raayalaseema (Chittoor distt. borders the TN), and there is coastal AP (Nellore distt. is adjacent to TN), and then there is North AP thats called Telangana. And with these sub-ethnicitis come different mindsets. There has been an internal struggle slowly simmering between various sub-ethnicities of AP itself.
    So my whole point is, its useless to decry a whole state. It is better to consider regions and identify the traits of a particular region that cause the problem.
  37. @kedar,
    Agree with you entirely.Maligning a community is not RIGHT.You are also right about tamil chauvinism.
  38. After reading Bhyrappa’s article (very well translated by Sandeep), I felt a little depressed about the past events, but remained hopeful about the future.
    But after reading some of the comments here, especially UI’s rants against Telugus, I am aghast.Basically, the picture painted by UI is that of a caste ridden polity and culture of Hinduism.Statements like ‘veera shaivas’ have found voice in the BJP, the Kannada Hoysala brahmins, petuylant neighbours in TN and AP etc etc show that UI and others of his ilk are capable of doing as much harm as any Jihadi Imam.Except for some poorly articulated Kannada chauvinism, I failed to find a single insight from some of these comments.
    God save India from its chauvinistic pseudo scholars ! If we are like this even on a web forum, what hope do we have at the ground level?
  39. Decaan Herald is a p-sec newspaper and have tied up with CNN-IBN in recent times. I have stopped subscribing to it and opted for Indian Express which is mush better Deccan Herald. You should have seen the DH coverage of Karnataka elections and it was 100% p-sec.
  40. A symposium on “Conversion – An Assault On Truth” is being held at Ravindra Kalakshetra, Bangalore on Sunday, the 4th of January at 10:30 AM.
    Haranahalli Ramaswamy, Dr. S.L. Bhyrappa, Shatavadhani Dr. R. Ganesh, Dr. N.S. Rajaram, and Dr. M. Chidanandamurthy are participating. Contact Udayshankar on 98451 94080 for more details. (from Thatskannada.com)
  41. The indomitable Indophile Sir Mark Tully’s latest book is India’s Unending Journey. In its Acknowledgments page, he has written as follows:-”But the book started from my belief that the Hindu tradition of acknowledging there can be many ways to God could help Christians to question those of their beliefs which have led them to deny the validity of other faiths, and all too often the validity of other Christian traditions than their own.”
  42. Hi!
    It is amazing the outrage of Hindus against Christians and Muslims for there attempt to convert mostly downtrodden Dalits into Christianity. What were Hindus doing to this poor people for thousands of years, treating them worse than pigs and abusing there women and children. I want all Brahmins in India should be treated like they treated untouchables. I thank Christians and Muslims for giving Dalits dignity.
  43. @ashish
    1>now kannada prabha&indian express kar edition is prohindu..so is samyukta karnataka. vijaya karnataka &TOI is congressi .and prajavani&its english partner deccanherald r almost organised left paper like hindu..
    2>vishveshwar bhat was editor of vijaya karnataka paper then.till he was editor .superb articles by pratap simha along with super hindutva of paper were few points which made VK no1 in karantaka. now vbhat is managing kannada prabha. it now contains fiery articles from pratap simha,sl bhyrappa.its editorial and op-ed pageis full of articles and so is the first page we look forward each day. hope all pro hindu papers give imp to ed and op ed page.
    3>fiery columnist pratap simha be recognised all over india.give him support.
    4>every wednesday bhyrappa article comes ,every saturday psimhas article in kannada prabha..
    5>bhyrappa is correct about intellectual sloth. swamiji has openly said mutts adn swamijis should not involve in politics.

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